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 ====== Fan's writing systems ====== ====== Fan's writing systems ======
-We don't know which writing system was used by the orcs in Middle-Earth. The [[Ring Inscription]] was done with [[Tengwar]]. According to Appendix E of LOTR III:+We don't know which writing system was used by the orcs in Middle-Earth. The [[ring-verse|Ring Inscription]] was done with [[Tengwar]]. 
 + 
 + 
 + According to Appendix E of LOTR III:
 > **The Cirth** in their older and simpler form spread eastward in the Second Age, and **became known** to many peoples, to Men and Dwarves, and **even to Orcs**, all of whom altered them to suit their purposes and according to their skill or lack of it.  > **The Cirth** in their older and simpler form spread eastward in the Second Age, and **became known** to many peoples, to Men and Dwarves, and **even to Orcs**, all of whom altered them to suit their purposes and according to their skill or lack of it. 
 However in LOTR II (Book Three, Chapter I: The Departure of Boromir) Legolas says that Sauron does not uses Elvish runes: However in LOTR II (Book Three, Chapter I: The Departure of Boromir) Legolas says that Sauron does not uses Elvish runes:
-  on the front of their iron helms was set an S-rune, +> on the front of their iron helms was set an S-rune, wrought of some white metal. 
-  wrought of some white metal. +>   ‘I have not seen these tokens before,’ said Aragorn. ‘What do they mean?’ 
-    ‘I have not seen these tokens before,’ said Aragorn. +>   ‘S is for Sauron,’ said Gimli. ‘That is easy to read.’ 
-  ‘What do they mean?’ +>   ‘Nay!’ said Legolas. ‘Sauron does not use the elf-runes.’ 
-    ‘S is for Sauron,’ said Gimli. ‘That is easy to read.’ +> ‘Neither does he use his right name, nor permit it to be spelt or spoken,’ said Aragorn. ‘And he does not use white. The Orcs in the service of Barad-dûr use the sign of the Red Eye.’ He stood for a moment in thought. ‘S is for Saruman, I guess,’ he said at length. 
-    ‘Nay!’ said Legolas. ‘Sauron does not use the elf-runes.’ + 
-    ‘Neither does he use his right name, nor permit it to be +So, probably [[Cirth]] was used only by Westron-speaking orcs of Misty Mountains and Moria. And it seems Mordor orcs used some hieroglyph-like symbols (at least we sure about Red Eye).
-  spelt or spoken,’ said Aragorn. ‘And he does not use white. +
-  The Orcs in the service of Barad-dûr use the sign of the Red +
-  Eye.’ He stood for a moment in thought. ‘S is for Saruman, +
-  I guess,’ he said at length. +
-So, probably Cirth was used only by Westron-speaking orcs of Misty Mountains and Moria. And it seems Mordor orcs used some hieroglyph-like symbols (at least we sure about Red Eye).+
  
 But many fans tried to invent writing systems unique for their [[black_speech_dialects|dialects]]. This page will list some of them. But many fans tried to invent writing systems unique for their [[black_speech_dialects|dialects]]. This page will list some of them.
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 ===== Za Maush ===== ===== Za Maush =====
-**//Za Maush//** (SV "letters") were invented in late 1990s - early 2000s for Svartiska.+**//Za Maush//** (SV "letters") is "[[wp>Abugida|abugida]]" writing system invented in late 1990s - early 2000s for Svartiska
  
-{{wiki:za-maush.jpg|Za Maush}}+{{za-maush.jpg|Za Maush}}
  
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 ===== Alphabet by The Second Nazgul ===== ===== Alphabet by The Second Nazgul =====
-"Mordor Alphabet" was invented by The Second Nazgul for "Dark Messages" forum board approximately in 2002. I saved only part of it. There was also a font by Json Aptenos, also lost.+"Mordor Alphabet" was invented by The Second Nazgul for "Dark Messages" forum board approximately in 2002. I have saved only part of it. There was also a font by Json Aptenos, also lost.
  
-{{wiki:MorAlph.jpg|Mordor Alphabet by The Second Nazgul}}+{{MorAlph.jpg|Mordor Alphabet by The Second Nazgul}}
  
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 ===== The Land of Shadow alphabet ===== ===== The Land of Shadow alphabet =====
-This alphabet was also born in "Dark Messages" board by request of The Land of Shadow site's administrator. Letters were invented by Sarumans Granddaughter and [[http://blackspeech.ru/downloads/BlackSpeechPlain.ttf|font file]] was created by Lugrekh. It was based on the cirth modified for writing with ink or paintbrush. It has the flaw, that cirth's runes for "kh" and "g" were swapped during creation of this alphabet (compare final table with  {{wiki:bscirth.jpg?linkonly|version 1}}).+This alphabet was also born in "Dark Messages" board by request of The Land of Shadow site's administrator in 2003. Letters were invented by Sarumans Granddaughter and [[http://blackspeech.ru/los/downloads/BlackSpeechPlain.ttf|font file]] was created by Lugrekh. It was based on the cirth modified for writing with ink or paintbrush. It has the flaw, that cirth's runes for "kh" and "g" were swapped during creation of this alphabet (compare final table with  {{bscirth.jpg?linkonly|version 1}}). 
 + 
 +{{pismo5.jpg|The Land of Shadow alphabet (version 5)}} 
 + 
 +See [[http://blackspeech.ru/los/index.php?page=4&a=0&lang=en#alpha_content|Alphabet]] section of BlackSpeech.ru site for detailed description.  
 + 
 +------------------- 
 +===== Maushur ===== 
 +**//Maushur//** (in Svartiska) or **//Mâshur//** (in Zhâburi B) is basically a Tengwar stylized to [[wp>cuneiform|cuneiform]]. It was invented by Björn Axén before 2011. 
 + 
 +{{maushur-eng.jpg|Maushur}} 
 + 
 +Svartiska and Zhâburi versions differ in depicting numbers: 
 + 
 +{{maushur-siffror.gif|Maushur's digits}} {{mashur-digits.png|Mâshur's digits}} 
 + 
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 +===== Kirkhi ===== 
 +**//Kirkhi//** (or **//kirkh//**) is the runic alphabet based on Mâshur which was made for Zhâburi dialect. 
 + 
 +{{:kirkh-mc3a2shur-table-a.png |Kirkhi final table}} {{ :kirkh-mc3a2shur.png|Kirkhi draft}} 
 + 
 +---------------------------- 
 +===== Angerthas Mordor ===== 
 +**//Angerthas Mordor//** is variant of Cirth (Angerthas Mordor) invented for Zhâburi dialect.
  
-{{wiki:pismo5.jpg|The Land of Shadow alphabet (version 5)}}+{{ :kirkh-angerthas-mordor.png |Angerthas Mordor}}
  
-See [[http://blackspeech.ru/index.php?page=4&a=0&lang=en#alpha_content|Alphabet]] section of BlackSpeech.ru site for detailed description. +Runes within brackets ( ) are not used in the Mordor version. Runes with a little X have a different sound value than in the Moria runes and the original sound is written within brackets. Two new runes for //o// and //ô// were created, but original runes (50 and 51) also may be used.
  
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 +===== Writing system in The Hobbit movie =====
 +[[https://www.danielreeve.co.nz/|Daniel Reeve]] invented Orkish writing system for The Hobbit movie trilogy, which he calls "goblin lettering". It can be found in the bounty offer for Thorin. The image is taken from [[http://www.elendilion.pl/2020/12/30/orc-writing-system-by-daniel-reeve-the-hobbit-movie/|Elendilion website]] which also presents some examples.
 +{{ :orcish_reeve1.jpg |Daniel Reeve's Orkish alphabet}}
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