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--- translations:goblin_song [2021/08/01 19:39] – [The Translation] morgoth
+++ translations:goblin_song [2023/09/07 19:38] (current) – external edit 127.0.0.1
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 Despite simple structure and grammar, this text is very challenging to translate because of rich lexicon with sound-imitations which would be nice to keep in translation. I had to add several new words to Nûrlâm's dictionary. However according to Appendix F of LOTR, orcs of Moria and Misty Mountains spoke Westron and not Black Speech. So this is just translation exercise and not an attempt to reconstruct this song in the native language of goblins.
-<WRAP center round todo 60%>
-<todo>Make a translation</todo>
-</WRAP>
 ===== The List of required words =====
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 | crush   | tûp-   | all major dialects < SV "shatûp" |
 | dare    | hûr-   | LOS |
-| down    | posh   | MERP |
+| down    | dhu    | HG (downwards) |
 | far     | baubarz | HG "baub" |
 | go      | ukh-   | LOS |
 | goblin  | uruk   | TK "orc" |
-| gong    | daul   | all major dialects < SV (drum) |
+| gong    | damb   | NL, both words from Qenya "tump" (to build, beat), "tompa" (small drum), "tombo" (gong) |
-| :::     | tump   | NL < Qenya "tump" (to build, beat), "tompa" (small drum), "tombo" (gong) |
+| :::     | tump   | ::: |
 | grab    | khlaf- | NL < Gnomish "clamfa" |
 | :::     | rop-((may be used to translate both "grab" and "grip")) | NL < all major dialects "rok-" (seize, grasp, grip) melted with Primitive Elvish "RAPH" (seize, grab, snatch) |
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 | snap    | gark-   | NL < Qenya "nark" (snap of a dog) |
 | swish   | thîth-  | NL < Gnomish "tif", "siptha" (to whistle) |
-| to      | -ishi   | TK\\ motion to the bottom – Illative case|
+| to      | -ishi   | TK\\ motion to the bottom -- Illative case|
 | tongs   | dan     | ON |
 | town    | fulz    | NL, merging Quenya "opele" (walled house, village, town), Gnomish "pel" (village, hamlet, -ham), Edain "obel" (town) < Etym. "PEL(ES)" (fenced field) with LOS "fulg-" (to dwell) |
 | underground | lata ghâmp | LOS, literal translation |
 | while   | kusn    | LOS < SV |
-| whip    | frûsh   | NL < LOS "frûshkul" < SV |
+| whip    | hauk    | HG (v) < SV "fashaukalog" |
-| :::     | hauk    | HG (v) < SV "fashaukalog" |
-| :::     | thup    | LOS, HG (v) < SV "thupar" (n) |
 | work    | bul-    | NL < DS (PO) "bulu" < Quenya "mólë" (n) < Etym. "MBOL"? |
 | :::     | snag-   | NL (toil) < LOS (labor, serve, work) < TK "Snaga"\\ this one may be more suitable for the work as a slave |
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   Thlakh! Gark! Grikum bûrz!
   Mank! Khlaf! Rikh! Mraf!
-  Agh posh posh ishi Urukfulz
+  Agh dhu dhu ishi Urukfulz
     Fi ukh, nonkdab!
   Thlazg, zurg! Tûp, margz!
-  Drang agh dan! Tuhal agh tump!
+  Drang agh dan! Tuhal agh damb!
-  Sud, sud, baubarz lata ghâmp!
+  Sud, sud, lata ghâmp baubarz!
     Ho, ho! nonkdab!
-  Thîth, thaik! Thupgrik!
+  Thîth, thaik! Hauk grik!
   Pûlp agh bump! Blîn agh shîk!
-  Snag, snag! Nar hûr frûtut!
+  Snag, snag! Frûtut nar hûr!
   Kusn uruk shogû agh uruk lalû,
-  Kurn, kurn baubarz lata ghâmp!
+  Kurn agh kurn lata ghâmp baubarz!
     Lata, nonkdab!
+I suggest that longer sentences (3rd line in verses 1 and 2, lines number 4 and 5 in verse 3) should be pronounced with reduced pauses between words (e.g. "lataghâmp").

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