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===== Personal names ===== | ===== Personal names ===== | ||
- | Here is the list of names of orcs with // | + | Here is the list of names of orcs with // |
^ Name ^ Description / Occurrence ^ Translation ^ Etymology ^ | ^ Name ^ Description / Occurrence ^ Translation ^ Etymology ^ | ||
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| Golfimbul | orc chieftain from Mount Gram invaded Shire (The Hobbit, 3rd Age) | | the joke of inventing the game //golf// by throwing Golfimbul' | | Golfimbul | orc chieftain from Mount Gram invaded Shire (The Hobbit, 3rd Age) | | the joke of inventing the game //golf// by throwing Golfimbul' | ||
| Gorbag | orc captain in Minars Morgul (LOTR) killed by Shagrat | //violent shit// or //violent torture//, | | Gorbag | orc captain in Minars Morgul (LOTR) killed by Shagrat | //violent shit// or //violent torture//, | ||
- | | Gorgol | 1st Age (The History of Middle-earth Volume III: The Lays of Beleriand, The Lay of Leithian poem: Of Beren, son of Barahir & his escape) | //butcher// (HOME III)((mentioned in the poem as " | + | | Gorgol | 1st Age (The History of Middle-earth Volume III: The Lays of Beleriand, The Lay of Leithian poem: Of Beren, son of Barahir & his escape) | //butcher// (HOME III)((mentioned in the poem as " |
- | | Gothmog | In LOTR III, The Return of King he was called Lieutenant of Minas Morgul, second in command of Nazgûl, but in Unfinished Tales this character was called Khamûl. In The Silmarillion this name refers to the lord of Balrogs. And in some draft to Silmarillion he is even called a "son of Melkor" | + | | Gothmog | In LOTR III, The Return of King he was called Lieutenant of Minas Morgul, second in command of Nazgûl, but in Unfinished Tales this character was called Khamûl |
| Grishnákh ((also spelled as " | | Grishnákh ((also spelled as " | ||
- | | Khamûl | see Gothmog, the commander in second of the Ringwraiths (Unfinished Tales, part 3, chapter 4). This name is possibly in some mannish language | < | + | | Khamûl | see Gothmog, the commander in second of the Ringwraiths (Unfinished Tales, part 3, chapter 4). This name is possibly in some mannish language. Khamûl is also called " |
| Lagduf | an orc of Cirith Ungol, killed by Morgul Orcs (LOTR III), | //gloomy sword//, //night blade//, \\ < | | Lagduf | an orc of Cirith Ungol, killed by Morgul Orcs (LOTR III), | //gloomy sword//, //night blade//, \\ < | ||
| Lug((appears as " | | Lug((appears as " | ||
| Lugdush | an orc of Isengard, slain by Rohirrim (LOTR II) | **Tower sorcery** | see Lugburz, Dushgoi | | | Lugdush | an orc of Isengard, slain by Rohirrim (LOTR II) | **Tower sorcery** | see Lugburz, Dushgoi | | ||
| Lughorn | an orc of Isengard (LOTR II) | // | | Lughorn | an orc of Isengard (LOTR II) | // | ||
- | | Mauhúr | an orc captain from Isengard (LOTR II) | //fierce warrior//, | + | | Mauhúr | an orc captain from Isengard (LOTR II) | //fierce warrior//,\\ //berserk//,\\ < |
| Muzgash | orc of Cirith Ungol killed by Morgul Orcs (LOTR III) | //evening fire//,\\ < | | Muzgash | orc of Cirith Ungol killed by Morgul Orcs (LOTR III) | //evening fire//,\\ < | ||
| Naglur-Danlo | orc of Cirith Ungol (The War of the Ring) | | | | | Naglur-Danlo | orc of Cirith Ungol (The War of the Ring) | | | | ||
| Nûzu | orc of Cirith Ungol (The War of the Ring), replaced by Shagram | | | | | Nûzu | orc of Cirith Ungol (The War of the Ring), replaced by Shagram | | | | ||
| Orcobal | an orc leader in the Fall of Gondolin, not a BS name | //mighty orc//, //cruel orc// | Qenya " | | Orcobal | an orc leader in the Fall of Gondolin, not a BS name | //mighty orc//, //cruel orc// | Qenya " | ||
- | | Othrod | an orc leader in the Fall of Gondolin, The Qenya/ | + | | Othrod | an orc leader in the Fall of Gondolin, The Qenya/ |
| Radbug | an orc of Cirith Ungol killed by Shagrat | < | | Radbug | an orc of Cirith Ungol killed by Shagrat | < | ||
+ | | Rog | Rog the Fleet, a name given to Egnor (father of Beren, later renamed to Barahir) by orcs (1st Age, BOLT II: I. The Tale of Tinúviel) | | | | ||
| Shagram | orc of Cirith Ungol (The War of the Ring) replaced by Shagrat in LOTR | | | | | Shagram | orc of Cirith Ungol (The War of the Ring) replaced by Shagrat in LOTR | | | | ||
| Shagrat | an orc captain of Cirith Ungol (LOTR III)| < | | Shagrat | an orc captain of Cirith Ungol (LOTR III)| < | ||
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| Snaga | the name of many orcs, actually a rank in hierarchy (WJ) | **slave**, | | Snaga | the name of many orcs, actually a rank in hierarchy (WJ) | **slave**, | ||
| Ufthak | an orc of Cirith Ungol, captured by Shelob (LOTR III) | < | | Ufthak | an orc of Cirith Ungol, captured by Shelob (LOTR III) | < | ||
- | | [[orcish_curse|Uglúk]] | an Uruk-hai captain of Isengard slain by Eomer (LOTR III) | < | + | | [[orcish_curse|Uglúk]] | an Uruk-hai captain of Isengard slain by Eomer (LOTR III) | < |
- | | Yagûl((also spelled " | + | | Yagûl((also spelled " |
| Zaglûn | orc of Minas Morgul (The War of the Ring), replaced by Yagûl and later by Gorbag | | ? zag < SAG (bitter, poison)\\ \\ ? lûn < Doriathrin & Ilkorin " | | Zaglûn | orc of Minas Morgul (The War of the Ring), replaced by Yagûl and later by Gorbag | | ? zag < SAG (bitter, poison)\\ \\ ? lûn < Doriathrin & Ilkorin " | ||
- | //Sauron// is the name in Sindarin. //Morgoth// is considered also as Sindarin word (a name give to Melkor by Fëanor) with translations "Black Foe" or "Dark Tyrant" | + | //Sauron// is the name in Quenya (Thauron, Gorthaur |
==== Table of possible Black Speech roots ==== | ==== Table of possible Black Speech roots ==== | ||
So below is the list of // | So below is the list of // | ||
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| oghor | Drúedain | UT | unknown, orcish word (AO); compare with Drúedain' | | oghor | Drúedain | UT | unknown, orcish word (AO); compare with Drúedain' | ||
| olog((also spelled " | | olog((also spelled " | ||
- | | shar(a), shark | man, from " | + | | shar(a), shark | man, from " |
| tark | men of Númenórean descend (i.e. Gondor), often used for all men | LOTR, Appendix F | DBS or Orkish word, from Quenya " | | tark | men of Númenórean descend (i.e. Gondor), often used for all men | LOTR, Appendix F | DBS or Orkish word, from Quenya " | ||
| uruk | orcs | LOTR | ÓROK (goblin) > Quenya " | | uruk | orcs | LOTR | ÓROK (goblin) > Quenya " | ||
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===== Places ===== | ===== Places ===== | ||
^ Black Speech ^ Translation ^ Etymology ^ Source ^ | ^ Black Speech ^ Translation ^ Etymology ^ Source ^ | ||
- | | Dushgoi | Minas Morgul | if it's a translation of Sindarin name, then " | + | | Dushgoi | Minas Morgul | if it's a translation of Sindarin name, then " |
| Lugbúrz((also spelled without diacritics in WJ)) | Barad-dûr | from Sindarin "dark tower", | | Lugbúrz((also spelled without diacritics in WJ)) | Barad-dûr | from Sindarin "dark tower", | ||
Names like Mordor or Angmar are in Sindarin, not Black Speech. | Names like Mordor or Angmar are in Sindarin, not Black Speech. |